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[Alan 0]

Hello M.O.S.T.

 

I have a 2006 250 Cr which has Shore Power 1 and Shore Power 2 outlet connections.

 

Is it that the circuits under each shore power main must be plugged into a power source to operate. Basically, will I need to have two separate shore power cords to energize all breaker switches on the A/C panel?

 

Alan

[RSUMRTOY2 0]

On my 282CR I have a main power coming in, a TV outlet/hook up and a phone outlet/hook up all coming into the boat, I only have one for shore power though. I have not heard of this configuration that you are describing on a smaller boat. You can get from West Marine a "splitter" cord, where it has the two ends that come together to connect to one shore power cord. My buddy has this set up on his Four Winns 378 and I believe it is 50 amp.

[Dan 0]

Hello M.O.S.T.

 

I have a 2006 250 Cr which has Shore Power 1 and Shore Power 2 outlet connections.

 

Is it that the circuits under each shore power main must be plugged into a power source to operate. Basically, will I need to have two separate shore power cords to energize all breaker switches on the A/C panel?

 

Alan

 

In essence you are correct. My old 250cr and my current 282cr was/is set up the same way. If I remember correctly.....I THINK, I had to have both shore power outlets connected to run the stove....can't quite remember and we never use the stove on our current boat.

As RSUMRTOY2 stated, just purchase a splitter and you'll be all set. Thats what I've done and it works fine.

[Alan 0]

On my 282CR I have a main power coming in, a TV outlet/hook up and a phone outlet/hook up all coming into the boat, I only have one for shore power though. I have not heard of this configuration that you are describing on a smaller boat. You can get from West Marine a "splitter" cord, where it has the two ends that come together to connect to one shore power cord. My buddy has this set up on his Four Winns 378 and I believe it is 50 amp.

 

RSUMRTOY2

I have TV/Phone outlet, Shore Power 1 and 2 outlet(s).

Reason of my original question to M.O.S.T., I spent a week end on the boat, and for the first time used a Honda EU2000 generator to gain power while on hook. I plugged into Shore Power 2 which runs A/C, refrige, Microwave and outlet(s). I now understand why the whole time I thought I was charging the batteries when in fact was not. Shore Power 1 runs Cook Top (which we did not use), Water Heater (used however not through A/C power) and Battery charger (which I wished I was using). The experience was enjoyable despite my incorrect assumption of having a battery charger energized and operating and despite having ran down both batteries. I have seen the 50 amp splitter cord you are referring to and believe I will need to make a decision to buy one or simply buy another shore power cord. I read a blog where I thought it stated connecting into any of the shore power outlets would energize the battery charger, it appears I was wrong "again". By the way, your 282CR, do you have an on board generator? I have been looking at on board versus portable generator and Westerbeke has a 3.0 and Next Gen a 3.5, which seems as compact as they get yet not in price. The 250 CR is vary limited to space in the engine compartment and the blogs regarding portables are endless pros and cons. Although the Honda did fit perfectly in the aft locker and worked well tied off on the swim platform. I remain cautious regarding the cons despite installing two additional CO detectors before use of the portable.

I would still like to here from M.O.S.T., however enjoyed your comments.

Thank you for your input and happy boating,

Alan

[Alan 0]

In essence you are correct. My old 250cr and my current 282cr was/is set up the same way. If I remember correctly.....I THINK, I had to have both shore power outlets connected to run the stove....can't quite remember and we never use the stove on our current boat.

As RSUMRTOY2 stated, just purchase a splitter and you'll be all set. Thats what I've done and it works fine.

 

Hi Dan

 

Do you have an on board generator in your 282CR or use a portable? And in using the splitter depending upon which power source, do you have to manage power use (wattage load) with the splitter?

 

Alan

[RSUMRTOY2 0]

RSUMRTOY2

I have TV/Phone outlet, Shore Power 1 and 2 outlet(s).

Reason of my original question to M.O.S.T., I spent a week end on the boat, and for the first time used a Honda EU2000 generator to gain power while on hook. I plugged into Shore Power 2 which runs A/C, refrige, Microwave and outlet(s). I now understand why the whole time I thought I was charging the batteries when in fact was not. Shore Power 1 runs Cook Top (which we did not use), Water Heater (used however not through A/C power) and Battery charger (which I wished I was using). The experience was enjoyable despite my incorrect assumption of having a battery charger energized and operating and despite having ran down both batteries. I have seen the 50 amp splitter cord you are referring to and believe I will need to make a decision to buy one or simply buy another shore power cord. I read a blog where I thought it stated connecting into any of the shore power outlets would energize the battery charger, it appears I was wrong "again". By the way, your 282CR, do you have an on board generator? I have been looking at on board versus portable generator and Westerbeke has a 3.0 and Next Gen a 3.5, which seems as compact as they get yet not in price. The 250 CR is vary limited to space in the engine compartment and the blogs regarding portables are endless pros and cons. Although the Honda did fit perfectly in the aft locker and worked well tied off on the swim platform. I remain cautious regarding the cons despite installing two additional CO detectors before use of the portable.

I would still like to here from M.O.S.T., however enjoyed your comments.

Thank you for your input and happy boating,

Alan

 

Hi Alan

My 282 does not have an on board generator. I too have the Honda 2000. Where we are, the 1,000 Islands in Canada, there are alot of spots you can't run your on board if you are at one of the Island National parks. There are noise complaints and health issues concerns abot CO2. We run our Honda generator up on the island away from people and run a long extension cord to the boat. Like I stated I have one power connection, and it energizes everything.

[The MOST 0]

Hi Alan,

 

When your Cruiser is equipped with factory installed air conditioning you will have 2 shore power outlets and the boat is shipped with 2 shore power cords.

 

Before you purchase another shore power cord or splitter, check the dockside power source...If your dockside outlet is 50 amp service, 2 seperate cords are best. If dockside is 30 amp service, you can use a splitter.

 

When using a splitter, keep in mind that you will not be able to use all appliances/accessories at the same time. For example, you want to turn on the air conditioning first and let it run for a while, then turn on the regfrigerator and wait a while before using anything else.

 

By using 2 seperate shore cords you will get better power results- especially when running the air conditioner.

[Alan 0]

Hi Alan

My 282 does not have an on board generator. I too have the Honda 2000. Where we are, the 1,000 Islands in Canada, there are alot of spots you can't run your on board if you are at one of the Island National parks. There are noise complaints and health issues concerns abot CO2. We run our Honda generator up on the island away from people and run a long extension cord to the boat. Like I stated I have one power connection, and it energizes everything.

 

 

1,000 Island's sounds intriguing, and I understand restrictions to ensure all aspects, human and ecology are being protected. In Florida, there are many places to boat however, few places which have such restrictions and which lack the scenery associated with Canada's 1,000 Island's. Here it's every man for him or her self, meaning; if your neighbor's exhaust is detected you probably would be better to just move. Regarding your Honda, have you heard of the ground issue or "Floating Ground" with the Honda and if so what if any have you done regarding this condition. I am still gaining more info on this so bare with me, I am learning as I go and hopefully not the hard way.

 

I appreciate your comments and most importantly you sharing your knowledge (experiences) good and bad boating with alternative power source.

 

Alan

[Alan 0]

Hi Alan,

 

When your Cruiser is equipped with factory installed air conditioning you will have 2 shore power outlets and the boat is shipped with 2 shore power cords.

 

Before you purchase another shore power cord or splitter, check the dockside power source...If your dockside outlet is 50 amp service, 2 seperate cords are best. If dockside is 30 amp service, you can use a splitter.

 

When using a splitter, keep in mind that you will not be able to use all appliances/accessories at the same time. For example, you want to turn on the air conditioning first and let it run for a while, then turn on the regfrigerator and wait a while before using anything else.

 

By using 2 seperate shore cords you will get better power results- especially when running the air conditioner.

 

Thank you,

 

Alan

[GetAway 0]

1,000 Island's sounds intriguing, and I understand restrictions to ensure all aspects, human and ecology are being protected. In Florida, there are many places to boat however, few places which have such restrictions and which lack the scenery associated with Canada's 1,000 Island's. Here it's every man for him or her self, meaning; if your neighbor's exhaust is detected you probably would be better to just move. Regarding your Honda, have you heard of the ground issue or "Floating Ground" with the Honda and if so what if any have you done regarding this condition. I am still gaining more info on this so bare with me, I am learning as I go and hopefully not the hard way.

 

I appreciate your comments and most importantly you sharing your knowledge (experiences) good and bad boating with alternative power source.

 

Alan

 

I just bought a Honda generator. Can you fill me in with what you know about this floating ground? I have not heard about this.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

2000 Monterey 242 CR

[Alan 0]

I just bought a Honda generator. Can you fill me in with what you know about this floating ground? I have not heard about this.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

2000 Monterey 242 CR

 

Hello GetAway:

 

As stated in my previous blog with RSUMORTOY2, I am new to this situation and learning myself about it. Basically, on many portable generators the unit is purposely not grounded to its chassis for engineering and safety reasons and is called Floating Ground. There are those who change this by connecting the neutral to the ground on the generator receptacles outlets and others who leave this condition alone. The floating ground while in use could be observed at the boat electrical panel by watching the reverse polarity indicator lights intermittently blinking. The boat user manual states this is not a good condition. I do not want to misstate and / or misrepresent something so I suggest you goggle search all you can on this and hope you can find a happy medium regarding safety. I used a EU2000 for a week end on hook, running A/C, receptacles and more without incident and I believe the Honda EU2000 (in good operating condition) is a favorable solution (if used and observed responsibly) when boating. Please note, I did not go in the water at all while the genset was running and I attempted to be sensitive to others concern regarding this use. I have spoken with a lightning protection specialist and he explained one solution is to ground the unit to a substantial metal based item on the boat. In doing so may limit a possible shock hazard but will not eliminate electrolysis and / or corrosion from electrolysis when the portable genset is in use. Other than an on board factory wired genset, when considering portable genset use, their should be serious consideration given with safety in mind when using a portable genset while boating. If you find something to add, please share it and I will do the same if I find something more on this.

 

Stay safe and happy boating.

 

Alan